Gardening is the handiest excuse for being a philosopher. nobody guesses, nobody accuses, nobody knows, but there you are, plato in the peonies, socrates force-growing his own hemlock. a man toting a sack of blood manure across his lawn is kin to atlas letting the world spin easy on his shoulder.
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Was it aristotle who said the human soul is composed of reason, will, and desire? no, that was plato. aristotle and plato were as different as mel tormé and bing crosby. in any case, things were a lot simpler in the old days, komatsu said. wouldn’t it be fun to imagine reason, will, and desire engaged in a fierce debate around a table?
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Socrates and plato are right: whatever man does he always does well, that is, he does that which seems to him good (useful) according to the degree of his intellect, the particular standard of his reasonableness.
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There have been hermaphrodites around forever, cal. Forever. Plato said that the original human being was a hermaphrodite. Did you know that? The original person was two halves, one male, one female. Then these got separated. That's why everybody's always searching for their other half. Except for us. We've got both halves already.
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There is nothing that has caused me to meditate more on plato's secrecy and sphinx-like nature, than the happily preserved petit fait that under the pillow of his death-bed there was found no 'bible,' nor anything egyptian, pythagorean, or platonic - but a book of aristophanes. how could even plato have endured life - a greek life which he repudiated - without an aristophanes!
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![While wading through the whimsies, the puerilities, and unintelligible jargon of this work [plato's republic], i laid it down often to ask myself how it could have been that the world should have so long consented to give reputation to such nonsense as this?](https://www.relicsworld.com/images/quotes/thumbs/while-wading-through-the-whimsies-the-puerilities-and-uninte-author-thomas-jefferson.jpg)
While wading through the whimsies, the puerilities, and unintelligible jargon of this work [plato's republic], i laid it down often to ask myself how it could have been that the world should have so long consented to give reputation to such nonsense as this?
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And believe me, if i were again beginning my studies, i should follow the advice of plato and start with the mathematical sciences, which proceed very cautiously and admit nothing as established until it has been rigorously demonstrated.
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Certain characteristics of the subject are clear. To begin with, we do not in this subject deal with particular things or particular properties: we deal formally with what can be said about any thing or any property. We are prepared to say that one and one are two, but not that socrates and plato are two.
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That plato's republic should have been admired, on its political side, by decent people, is perhaps the most astonishing example of literary snobbery in all history.
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The weight of the world is on our shoulders, its vision is through our eyes; if we blink or look aside, or turn back to finger what plato said or remember napoleon and his conquests, we inflict on the world the injury of some obliquity. this is life.
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I cannot favour laws such as that of idaho, which allows sterilization of 'mental defectives, epileptics, habitual criminals, moral degenerates, and sex perverts.' the last two categories here are very vague . . . The law of idaho would have justified the sterilization of socrates, plato, julius caesar, and st. Paul.
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Art- speech is the only truth. An artist is usually a damned liar but his art, if it be art, will tell you the truth of his day and that is all that matters. Away with eternal truth. The truth lives from day to day, and the marvelous plato of yesterday is chiefly bosh today.
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Plato is philosophy, and philosophy, plato,--at once the glory and the shame of mankind, since neither saxon nor roman have availed to add any idea to his categories.
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When catholicism goes bad it becomes the world-old, world-wide religio of amulets and holy places and priestcraft. protestantism,in its corresponding decay, becomes a vague mist of ethical platitudes. catholicism is accused of being too much like all the other religions; protestantism of being insufficiently like a religion at all. hence plato, with his transcendent forms, is the doctor of protestants; aristotle, with his immanent forms, the doctor of catholics.
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Philosophy, for plato, is a kind of vision, the 'vision of truth'...Everyone who has done any kind of creative work has experienced, in a greater or less degree, the state of mind in which, after long labour, truth or beauty appears, or seems to appear, in a sudden glory - it may only be about some small matter, or it may be about the universe. I think that most of the best creative work, in art, in science, in literature, and in philosophy, has been a result of just such a moment.
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When a thought of plato becomes a thought to me,--when a truth that fired the soul of pindar fires mine, time is no more. When i feel that we two meet in a perception, that our two souls are tinged with the same hue, and do as it were run into one, why should i measure degrees of latitude, why should i count egyptian years?
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The sophists had this idea: forget this idea of what's true or notwhat you want to do is rhetoric; you want to be able to persuade the audience and have the audience think you're smart and cool. And socrates and plato, basically their whole idea is, "bullshit. There is such a thing as truth, and it's not all just how to say what you say so that you get a good job or get laid, or whatever it is people think they want.
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In those days it was possible for a greek to flee from an over-abundant reality as though it were but the tricky scheming off the imagination-and to flee, not like plato into the land of eternal ideas, into the workshop off the world-creator, feasting one's eyes on the unblemished unbreakable archetypes, but into the rigor mortis off the coldest emptiest concept off all, the concept of being.
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